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Thursday, December 22, 2016

Pope Francis' New Tulsa Bishop Now Removes An Order of Nuns

"The new bishop of Tulsa told us earlier this month that he does not see a way forward for our community in the Diocese of Tulsa, Oklahoma. In a memo to Diocesan priests and staff, the bishop writes: 'After careful consideration and prayerful discernment, the Diocese of Tulsa has elected to end its affiliation with the Daughters of Mary, Mother of Israel's Hope, and allow the community to continue their apostolic exploration in another diocese.'

"This is a great sadness to us and to many families and individuals in the Diocese of Tulsa and beyond who have worked so hard and given so much to establish our Priory and renovate the guest house that was donated to us. Yet, we are at peace..."
That is from the newsletter of the Daughters of Mary, Mother of Israel's Hope. Okie Traditionalist broke this news before me tonight, so I highly recommend you check out his place for some more facts and links. It's really sad, as Okie Trad states, when you check out pages 5 and 6 of their newsletter. You can see people putting their money and hard work towards renovating the house for their priory, and you see the sisters' happy faces as they posed with their new van. Absolutely tragic.

Unlike when Fr. Ripperger's exorcist society was suppressed, there is no available memo to print, display, or link to. Not at this time. Mother Miriam's newsletter, alone, confirms this event. This decision of the "diocese" took place in the earlier part of December.

Rumors of this impending act on the part of Bishop Konderla have swirled around me, here in Tulsa. However, rumor-fueled foreknowledge of what was to come was not enough to justify an official breaking post.

Okie Trad also has sort of known for a while what was coming down the pipeline. He tried to publicly discuss this month's dismissal. Followers of The Okie Traditionalist will be familiar with his previous attempts to warn the Tulsa community about the bishop's next move. However, when Mother Miriam, herself, discovered public discussion of the situation, apologies had to be made, and discussion had to be squelched. However, Okie Trad did ponder what would happen to the Doloran Fathers and Mother Miriam's Daughter's of Mary in early November.

The point being is this: all of the interested and vacating parties or their friends wanted everyone to hush up. "If we just keep our heads down, everything will be just fine. Things won't be so bad." This is a recipe for destruction that Traditional Catholics have been cooking ever since Vatican II. And because of this panic, the Catholic Faith has been dying with a whimper all across the West.

It was already in Bishop Konderla's heart to do this. He was going to suppress this community.  He will probably do more.  It should be clear now that this bishop has a certain kind of "vision" for Northeast Oklahoma that does not include groups such as this.  You will not be protected simply by playing along and pretending to be a part of the "groupthink."  You will be ostracized for who you are.

I've said it before, and I'll say it again. Being quiet and subdued got us into this post-Vatican II mess in the first place. Decade after decade, priests and laity have pretended that there has been nothing wrong with the Catholic Church. They do this in order to preserve the remaining integrity of the Church's institution--all the while, it's being eaten away right in front of them.

There is no point in hiding. If anyone in the Catholic community is shielding their Traditionalist tendencies in fear of discovery--there is no use. Will there be an opportunity for someone in the local clergy to stand up to this? I am uncertain. Will we see another career martyred in the near future? Wouldn't surprise me. Francis Church is alive and well in the Diocese of Tulsa.

So, I guess the message is: "Happy Holidays, ladies.  Now get out."

DO NOT CONTACT THE CHANCERY.  IT WILL DO NO GOOD.  Agitating things here in my city will only accelerate the process of modernism.

Follow the saga here:

Pope Francis' New Tulsa Bishop Cancelling Traditional Exorcism Society
New Tulsa Bishop Does Away With Exorcist Society: Part 2
Exorcists Kicked Out: Part 3 -- Satan's Country
Importing Catholic Modernism from Austin, Texas
We Are Becoming Feral Sheep


  1. Here is what is happening to the Church and the world: www.thebookoftruthonline.blogspot.com

    Francis is not who the world thinks he is.

    Protect yourselves, see message dated 2/20/12


    This kind of cowardice is the cause of the problem. The saints and martyrs were willing to die. You girly men won't even tell the hierarchs what you think of them?!?

    This same cancer is taking place in the LA Archdiocese. The FSSP has started a "personal parish" here but they think the way forward is to be sycophants for the NovusOrdo hierarch Gomez who is continuing the destruction of the archdiocese that Mahoney started.

    1. This kind of cowardice is the cause of the problem.

      You serious? You honestly think angry calls and haranguing the bishop is going to change his mind? He hasn't even offered an explanation. He thinks so little of the Trad community, that he cheerfully sends out a survey about how he's doing and the Diocese Development Fund. As though we're less than dirt. Plus, the Church is a hierarchy, not a democracy.

      I think Konderla has set the stage for the direction he intends to take Tulsa, no matter what any of us little Trads have to say. If you wanna call the chancery, this is America and you can do it. But it will avail us nothing.

  3. Folks, if you aren't already, you have to start attending/supporting your SSPX chapel. It is the prudent thing to do. Even if you are still allowed an FSSP or Diocesan Mass by your bishop (for the moment), how long do you think that permission is going to last without the SSPX's presence in your diocese? Stop giving money to anything that has to do with the diocesan bishop and give whole-heartedly to traditional causes elsewhere.

    1. Under Summorum, no "permission" is needed for a priest to celebrate a traditional Roman Rite Mass - though, yes, a bishop can make life sticky for such a priest if he really wants to.

      In any event, the SSPX isn't everywhere, so this is not an option for some, unless they care to move. Here in Arlington, there are 17 parishes - about 1 in 4 in the diocese (a record in the Westerm Hemisphere, I believe) - which have regular TLMs, and the new bishop would find himself with a presbyterate in revolt if he tried to crack down.

      It's possible that at some point in the future we'll all have to make a hard choice. I don't think we're quite there yet, even in Tulsa, though I cast no aspersions on those who have decided to opt for the Society.

  4. Why don't Mother Miriam and her sisters simply put themselves under the protection of the SSPX? That will only work if a) the diocese has no legal control of their property or funds, and b) if the people continue to support the sisters in their work. The diocese is not Bishop Konderla, any more than the Church is Pope Bergoglio.

    1. I don't know Mother Miriam, but I would expect her first move will be to try to identify another Diocese which would be open to having her and her order - and I can think of a number of Midwestern dioceses which might.

      I expect that even if she has control over property and funds, such a move would entail some hardship. But it's the obvious move to try at this point, since their mindset seems to be to work within canonical structures.

  5. This so called bishop is another gravy train bishop, out with the old in with crap. Thanks Nouvs ordo, leading souls to hell since 1970. this bishop is bad news.

  6. Today, someone told me the following:

    "I'm curious that you spend the whole article saying that being silent and subdued is what got us here, and then end with "but don't agitate them by calling them"..."

    The answer is to simply know your place in the scheme of things.

    I replied:

    When confronted by the bishop or his people, the clergy in Tulsa should not pretend to be something they are not. They should not hide their traditionalism. They should stand for who and what they are.

    Nor should the laity, here in Tulsa, be silent about this. We have invested into these communities. It is our right to at least acknowledge what has been done with the money and time we have put into these religious communities. This is public knowledge--not gossip. And something nefarious is happening in our community. It is our right to communicate with one another.

    But should the laity pester the bishop? No. Perhaps on that silly survey Konderla mentions, which I discussed in another post. However, do not mistake the Catholic Church for a democracy. It is not. Know your station, and know that, should the bishop be interested in hearing us out, he will ask.

    We should prepare ourselves for this ongoing demolition. And the clergy should stand fast with ready hearts. But, again, we are not Protestants. We are not in open protest against the Church. We are members within it. We are not each his own pope. It is a fine line, as St. Catherine of Siena would attest. We should not pretend there's nothing wrong. But neither should we revolt in some sort of a Freemasonic style.

    I suppose if Tulsans want to remove support from Bishop Konderla's domain, they could give their money to another diocese or cause. We do, after all, have an SSPX chapel here in town.