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Tuesday, September 13, 2016

What's Wrong With the Vatican II Council Documents? Part 2

"The Second Vatican Council went bonkers, but the documents of VII were just fine."

So say many semi-Traditional people in the Catholic community.  Michael Voris and E. Michael Jones come to mind on this one.

The documents were not fine.

"Everything's fine!  Get comfortable!"

In this post, I'll list a few more passages from the Second Vatican Council documents that just aren't good.  They are dangerous and responsible for many of our troubles today.  

Rebuttals to these particular passages are found right here, in an article called: What Are The Specific Errors Of Vatican II – Not Secondary “In The Spirit Of” Sources But Direct Documents

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1. “According to the almost unanimous opinion of believers and unbelievers alike, all things on earth should be directed towards man as their centre and crown.”
-Gaudium et Spes 12

2.  The Church is "...like a sacrament … both of very close union with God and of the unity of the whole human race.”
-Lumen Genitum 1

3.  “But the plan of salvation also includes those who acknowledge the Creator. In the first place amongst these there are the Muslims, who, professing to hold the faith of Abraham, together with us adore the one and merciful God, who on the last day will judge mankind.”
Lumen Gentium 16

4.  “Christ summons the Church to continual reformation as she sojourns here on earth. The Church is always in need of this, in so far as she is an institution of men here on earth. Thus if, in various times and circumstances, there have been deficiencies in moral conduct or in church discipline, or even in the way that church teaching has been formulated – to be carefully distinguished from the deposit of faith itself – these can and should be set right at the opportune moment.”
Unitatis Redintigratio 6

5.  Sacred Tradition is something which:

“…develops in the Church with the help of the Holy Spirit. For there is a growth in the understanding of the realities and the words which have been handed down. This happens through the contemplation and study made by believers, who treasure these things in their hearts (see Luke, 2:19, 51) through a penetrating understanding of the spiritual realities which they experience, and through the preaching of those who have received through Episcopal succession the sure gift of truth.”
-Dei Verbum 8

6. “For all missions and for the whole of missionary activity there should be only one competent office, namely that of the ‘Propagation of the Faith,’ which should direct and coordinate, throughout the world, both missionary work itself and missionary cooperation. … In collaboration with the Secretariat for the Promotion of Christian Unity let it seek ways and means for attaining and organizing fraternal co-operation and harmonious relations with the missionary undertakings of other Christian communities, so that as far as possible the scandal of division may be removed.”
-Ad Gentes Divinitus 29

7.  “This Vatican Council declares that the human person has a right to religious freedom. This freedom means that all men are to be immune from coercion on the part of individuals or of social groups and of any human power, in such wise that no one is to be forced to act in a manner contrary to his own beliefs, whether privately or publicly, whether alone or in association with others, within due limits.

The council further declares that the right to religious freedom has its foundation in the very dignity of the human person as this dignity is known through the revealed word of God and by reason itself.(2) This right of the human person to religious freedom is to be recognized in the constitutional law whereby society is governed and thus it is to become a civil right.”
-Dignitatis Humanae 2


  1. https://youtu.be/v8J-Ae8QPVI check this video when you have time.
    E Michael Jones is very smart & educated.
    It strikes me as extremely odd he doesn't comprehend the heresy in the Vatican 2 documents.
    Is he on the councillor payroll?

  2. Good to see you the spunk to switch gears for the moment to a different blog topic, after reporting Konderla-hate.

    My serotonin levels should be high enough for another blog post tonight over at The Okie Traditionalist. I'm thinking a post on hobby's such as hardening or blogging.