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Monday, March 14, 2016

Suscipe Domine: An Enormous Mess

Brought to you by the Suscipe Domine forum.

Kaesekopf, owner of a Traditional Catholic forum that mainly serves as his Echo Chamber and a plaything to serve his emotional agenda, once again demonstrates his whimsical uneven hand at leadership, here towards the end of winter.

The most recent spectacle is a thread about a recent interview between Bishop Fellay of the SSPX on the show Conflict Zone.  As you will observe, the thread is started by the ever-smirking Father Cekada, who is always game to ridicule other priests in the Catholic Church, and is always prepared to bait and stir up members in other forums.

And yet, in spite of this truly destructive behavior, KK keeps Fr. Cekada around like some sort of pet, demonstrating that the former has some sort of fondness towards sedevacantism that he dare not openly admit.  Why be a coward?  Why not just outright proclaim that you flirt with sedevacantism--as I've accused you of all along?  Why deny this?

A look at the ban list will demonstrate that Fr. Cekada has been banned three times from The Echo Chamber "due to his uncharitable posting habits after being warned," "for disregarding a moderator request," and for spitefully recommending that Pope Francis sit in an electric chair.  

Indeed, reading Fr. Cekada introduce the thread about Bp. Fellay, I envisioned some kind of a mad grinning scientist mixing chemicals for nefarious purposes.  This kind of bating is not good, wholesome, or Christian.  And yet, here, we see a priest behaving in a shameful manner.

And if the desired effect was to create a thread full of contention, stife, and argument, then Fr. Cekada has succeeded.  In fact, if Fr. Cekada is resigned to be a sedevacantist, what other reason could he have for being on a Catholic forum where people are not sede?  The Echo Chamber is populated mostly with SSPX, FSSP, and diocesan TLM Catholics.  The sedes who are there are a minority, in spite of the fact that they get their own folder.  So, why else would Fr. Cekada be there, other than to either draw Catholics into sedevacantism, to mock any Catholics still faithful to the Magesterium, or all of the above?

The thread about Bp. Fellay progresses as one would expect.  Christulsa remarks about how, in the interview, the bishop was serving as an excellent example of holiness and truthfulness.  Dymphna17 chided Fr. Cekada, telling him that Bishop Fellay was "an example more than a few of us could follow."

And then, there were those in the thread who were disappointed with Bp. Fellay's interview.   Gerard was upset that Bp. Fellay could have done a better job.  Clare remarked that he was too apologetic and equivocated too much.  By page two, Greg chimes in with the brashness that the online Trad community loves, and gives a real red-meat opinion about the matter.  Clearly, Greg was not happy.

By page three, Greg says that Bp. Fellay came out of the interview looking like an idiot, criticizing his daft grin and unhelpful demeanour.  He called Fellay an irresolute milquetoast appeaser who is incompetent to negotiate anything.  LausTibiChriste, being the baiting jerk that he is, called Cantarella an asshole.  (This is typical of LTC, who is a timid weakling when it comes to evangelization.)  King Wenceslas argued that Fellay needed to be more of a man.

Congrats, Father Cekada!  You've really stirred up the hornet's nest now, eh?  If I were to hazard a guess, I'd say that Satan couldn't have done a better job.  After all, nowhere in the thread do you step in and try to coach hot tempers to be more reasonable.  But I digress.

The Cicada
By page four, christulsa argued that Fellay spoke the truth charitably.  Yet, Gerard retorted that the interview was not truthful at all, but a jumbled mess, likening the bishop to a clericalized version of President Obama.  Christulsa argued that Greg and Gerard were out of line in the manner they were criticizing Bishop Fellay, and he posted the forum's rules for all to see:

Hello and welcome to Suscipe Domine!

Suscipe Domine is a traditional Catholic forum committed to preserving and defending Traditional Catholicism.  Our common Catholic faith, as taught and professed throughout history, binds us at this forum. The "party line" is that of the Society of St. Pius X...
5) "Trad-bashing" is not permitted. While raising concerns or making comments about various currents in the Traditional Catholic community is allowed, unfair accusations about individuals or groups who are sincerely trying to practice the Faith is forbidden. Likewise, insinuating that certain trads or groups of trads are not really Catholic will not be tolerated.
By page five, Greg's called Bishop Fellay an idiot who was out of his depth in his own house (where the interview took place).  Finally, KK the Coward jumps in and calls Bishop Fellay a lost puppy.  "We need prelates to not be such candyasses," he says.  KK goes on to say that Bp. Fellay is a Caspar Milquetoast who "couldn't even defend his spiritual father's words about Muslims."  Christulsa proceeded to tell Kaesekopf "the TL;DR moderator" that calling Bp. Fellay a candyass--amid all of the other insults--conflicts with forum rules about Trad bashing.

Christulsa was right.

As I recall, I had a thread on SD actually locked by Archer for when I was apologizing to Fr. Cekada for calling him a worm and referring to him as the insect, the cicada.  Indeed, after talking to a few priests, I was informed that not even Fr. Cekada ought to be talked to so disrespectfully.  So, I made a quick thread in which I apologized to Fr. Cekada.  I also publicly repented of any insults I tossed out towards Arius, Martin Luther, and Judas--just to cover my bases.  Don't wanna go insulting priests, after all.

I asked the moderators to please lock the thread quickly so that it wouldn't get out of hand. Unfortunately, my adversaries were allowed to fester, and more ill will was stirred up towards me.

For the record I don't appreciate the entitled attitude you took when you...recommended...I lock your thread.  -Archer

Of course, I'm not the only one who can see that Fr. Cekada seems to be an unwholesome and detrimental member of the online Traditional Catholic community.

Nolimetangerechristisvm (I'll now refer to as NMT) created a thread earlier in the day before the Bp. Fellay thread.  In it, he linked to a blog post that discussed Fr. Cekada's support for justifying the death of Terry Schiavo.  Seemed like an interesting topic for conversation.  NMT finished his post, stating: "I would personally never have allowed this man to be permitted to post here if were up to me."

But KK the Coward wouldn't have any of that.  How dare this forum member attack his boy, Fr. Cekada!  No sir.  The poster NMT was banned that day:
Regardless of your feelings with respect to Fr Cekada, he is still a Catholic priest and deserves some level of respect.

One day ban issued.
My good people!  My fellow Romans!  Does this not strike you as outright hypocricy?  The stench of Kaesekopf's bold two-faced nature is on display for everyone who merely takes a look!

Kaesekopf of Suscipe Domine's take on clergy:
Bishop Fellay: Lost puppy, and candyass
Fr. Cekada: "he is still a Catholic priest and deserves some level of respect."

What utter and detestable double speak!  What a complete fraud!  What a double-dealing, glib, sanctimonious loser!

That day, not a single person was punished for failing to respect Bishop Fellay.  But NMT--who dared to go after KK's sedevacantist pet--he's the one who got banned that day.

And as long as we're looking at bans, just how much vulgarity can Greg get away with on the Suscipe Domine forum?  I'm a huge fan of Greg, and if I had a forum, I'd keep him on as an asset.  But universal rules would apply to him just the same as everyone else.

On Suscipe Domine, our friend Greg has been banned SIX TIMES.  He's still posting to this day.  Looks like he's getting at least SEVEN chances, now:

What a load of crap!


Get a load of the nonsense they sputtered for Greg's first banning.  They're such hypocrites and liars:
Greg's post was unacceptable both because of the vulgar language that he used and because of his uncharitable attitude toward the OP. It is not Greg's place to dictate what is worthy of prayer. Indeed, if asking for intercession from one's fellow Christian brothers and sisters in the struggle against sin is not worthy of prayer, then what is?
Amazing.  That was two years ago.  I assure you, more vulgarity and "uncharitable language" was to follow for the next 24 months.  His ban record alone attests to that fact.

Myself?  I was ostracized by my fourth banning.


Consider this nonsense they told me on my third banning:
LaramieHirsch has been banned for three days per the banning schedule for his conduct in this thread, posting with an agenda, not posting in good faith, instigating the forum.
Instigating the forum?  Really?  You're gonna let Fr. Cekada come into the community, throw filth and ill will around about Church officials, you're gonna call Bishop Fellay a candyass--you're gonna do all that, and tell me that I'm instigating the forum?

Kaesekopf, the owner of the Sucipe Domine forum, is a terrible person.  He's a mess.  A big fat mess.

And posting with an agenda?  Are we all not Traditional Catholics who have a Traditional Catholic agenda?  What an airy fairy statement.  And as far as "not posting in good faith," I'd say that the entire forum is not run in good faith.

Suscipe Domine is an echo chamber.  A circus.  A joke.  It holds no dignity.  The people there exist there, merely because they have to congregate somewhere.  They keep their heads down and try not to rock the boat, for fear of KK's uneven heavy-handed whims.

It's no damned wonder the atheists and everyone outside of these circles mocks us.  We can't even live by Catholic standards.

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